I purchased one of these chassis http://www.tgcipc.com/product.php?mod=detail&id=81, used 3×2 port LSI SAS cards. I loaded them with HBA firmware and I had the perfect NAS and virtual machine box for less than 1K Australian. (no drives) So in USA/Canada it would be well less than a 1K.
The HBA over RAID controller advice is very confusing to me. I'm currently planning multiple servers and the database server is currently supposed to get a Broadcom 9460-8i with CacheVault to setup a RAID 10. That seems like the best choice to me. Can anyone argue against that? Would Linus disapprove?
why you never RAID0 lets say 3 drives together and run RAID0 drives in UNRAID. It improves the read/write speeds. I've done this with old 500Gb drives and created 3 raid0 2TB (4x500GB) drives and it saturates 1GBit network easily 🙂 Maybe idea for your next UNRAID video…
A video I'd like to see is the systems and setups in some of the LTT guys homes. Jake mentioned he has a setup with his Plex server and other VMs and such. It'd be cool to see what they have set up in their systems and why.
a 45drives server is a more elegant solution. I would like to seee 45drives sell their chassis without cpu,ram, mobo at a cheaper price so you can reuse old hardware or make a system which is a lot more powerful than what 45drives ships
We are going to use promox for ZFS…JAKE only 20MB per second *BOOM* By the power of a dodgy edit, https://youtu.be/FAy9N1vX76o?t=766 …… now unraid is installed
I would love to see a calab between ltt and a non tech channel, for a storage upgrade video, Maybe a channel like 'Grind Hard Plumbing' and linus, they upgrade power wheels to…
First, one should NOT use SAS controllers with SATA drives. You can, of course, but you must make sure to have 1 to 1 connector to drive connection, and NOT using SAS expanders. SAS expanders have active parts (chip that converts one SAS connection to more ports) and those chip can be buggy, glitchy or just stuck in the middle of the operations, at random, so with them your system can got stuck, just for using SAS expanders. And please, just use ZFS for your file server, it is multi platform it is 15 years in production. (and ECC RAM seems like obligatory these days, if you dont' want the garbled data to end up keeps writing on your file server..- Intel guys without ECC, please pay attention..) .
Another problem in the amateurish system like this, is the huge vibration coming from differently oriented drives, without enough vibration isolation. Maybe if they are oriented in the same way, system would be less vibrations-affected? Also case that is used is hugely important for easing access to drives in case of the need for drive replacement. (I always like more RADIZ2 then RAIDZ with spare drives… Just saying for spare drive to kick in, it takes time, but if drive is already there.. why not putting it full time on the task of better guarding data?.. just saying..)
It is NOT the case that you can not add different sized drives in their own VDEVs (groups of drives) over time. you can, and also your whole disks system gets faster with the number of VDEVs you are adding to the system. (data is striped across VDEVs) Of course VDEVs should consist of at least pairs of drives at minimum for error resiliency, when adding more drives to the system. Also one can also REPLACE smaller capacity drives, with a larger drives (by replacing ALL drives in the VDEV, you get free space increase in that VDEV), and do that on the fly Also with newest OpenZFS development, one can also REMOVE some VDEVs form the system and add a new ones, and ZFS would reconfigure data. Only someone stupid could rely to adding ONE drive at a time, to expand File server capacity and loose all the goodness of ZFS in the process, plus limiting writing speed..
As for gaming. Could I just put one of those things somewhere in my house, install my steam games on there and run the games on my actual gaming computer via a network cable (without installing them on the gaming computer of course)? Or is that not at all how this works.
Small correction: You mention that in Unraid the array drives have to be smàller than the parity drive; however, drives with the same capacity are fine, just don't put drives in the array witch a hígher capacity than the parity one.
Thanks for reminding me that HBA cards and "octopus" cables are still relatively cheap! Also you can go without a VGA card at all. Linux naturally supports ttys redirected to serial ports. You just have to reconfigure your installer's GRUB or use preseed instead. I guess every UEFI has PXE or BOOTP support nowadays. It's not for just the server market anymore.
Don't do RaidZ1 with such large drives. If a drive dies the resilvering process could easily kill another drive due to the strain of resilvering – bye bye data
Fwiw you can run btrfs in RAID1 and keep adding drives after the fact – you'll have 1 drive worth of parity data the whole time but Unraid isn't the only expandable system.
And it go back to the video that why somebody else choose jelly fish over DIY , yes the DIY has great spec bang for your buck but it need a lot of work to get it going(look at how many people need to complete it) VS an of the shelf ready to use with a support team ready to replace it in mission critical job with a pick of a phone which include in their high price.
Is there gonna be detailed tutorial? This would be nice for me, since I've been looking for nas like QNAP 8-bay which costs 1600e, I'd have 8x 8tb already purchased (which of 4x are in qnap 4-bay now). I'm tech savvy but do not have almost any experience about nas setup or commandline stuff, also I have built only 1 pc so far. So all those parts I need as a list
Are those drives the ones they sent as a mistake? Is linus gonna put drives in everything untill he used them all?
Slowmoguys be like “we can fit ten minutes on it” lol
"normal" case
9:25
Video went from nice and informal to obnoxious and dumb in just seconds. Get lost Jake!
Oh Denis…
I purchased one of these chassis http://www.tgcipc.com/product.php?mod=detail&id=81, used 3×2 port LSI SAS cards. I loaded them with HBA firmware and I had the perfect NAS and virtual machine box for less than 1K Australian. (no drives) So in USA/Canada it would be well less than a 1K.
dont use raidz1 on drives that big ><
makin' me nervous lol
(anything over 3tb drives should have at least 2 "parity drives", so raidz2/raid6 or higher)
My google drive unlimited can have me read files at 80 Mbps.
The HBA over RAID controller advice is very confusing to me. I'm currently planning multiple servers and the database server is currently supposed to get a Broadcom 9460-8i with CacheVault to setup a RAID 10. That seems like the best choice to me. Can anyone argue against that? Would Linus disapprove?
I see linus caught on and didn't do a segway to his sponsor. Sneaky Linus… Sneaky.
Bro can you give me a gpu for free
Never use RAID-Z1 or RAID 5. If a drive fails it will take a long time to rebuild and during that time if another drives fails you are screwed.
why you never RAID0 lets say 3 drives together and run RAID0 drives in UNRAID. It improves the read/write speeds. I've done this with old 500Gb drives and created 3 raid0 2TB (4x500GB) drives and it saturates 1GBit network easily 🙂 Maybe idea for your next UNRAID video…
Why is Linus still using a note 9?
A video I'd like to see is the systems and setups in some of the LTT guys homes. Jake mentioned he has a setup with his Plex server and other VMs and such. It'd be cool to see what they have set up in their systems and why.
a 45drives server is a more elegant solution. I would like to seee 45drives sell their chassis without cpu,ram, mobo at a cheaper price so you can reuse old hardware or make a system which is a lot more powerful than what 45drives ships
We are going to use promox for ZFS…JAKE only 20MB per second *BOOM* By the power of a dodgy edit, https://youtu.be/FAy9N1vX76o?t=766 …… now unraid is installed
I would love to see a calab between ltt and a non tech channel, for a storage upgrade video, Maybe a channel like 'Grind Hard Plumbing' and linus, they upgrade power wheels to…
$200 case that weighs 200lbs.
Does anyone know if this is a good budget pc and if not are there and below 500 (including shipping and taxes) recommends https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1446_1448&item_id=124265 – I work at mcdonalds so anything over $500 Is too much for me
I could really use a few of those 16gb Seagate drives, send me a few please. I only use Seagate in my PC's… Never had one go bad EVER!
First, one should NOT use SAS controllers with SATA drives. You can, of course, but you must make sure to have 1 to 1 connector to drive connection, and NOT using SAS expanders.
SAS expanders have active parts (chip that converts one SAS connection to more ports) and those chip can be buggy, glitchy or just stuck in the middle of the operations, at random, so with them your system can got stuck, just for using SAS expanders.
And please, just use ZFS for your file server, it is multi platform it is 15 years in production.
(and ECC RAM seems like obligatory these days, if you dont' want the garbled data to end up keeps writing on your file server..- Intel guys without ECC, please pay attention..) .
Another problem in the amateurish system like this, is the huge vibration coming from differently oriented drives, without enough vibration isolation. Maybe if they are oriented in the same way, system would be less vibrations-affected?
Also case that is used is hugely important for easing access to drives in case of the need for drive replacement. (I always like more RADIZ2 then RAIDZ with spare drives… Just saying for spare drive to kick in, it takes time, but if drive is already there.. why not putting it full time on the task of better guarding data?.. just saying..)
It is NOT the case that you can not add different sized drives in their own VDEVs (groups of drives) over time. you can, and also your whole disks system gets faster with the number of VDEVs you are adding to the system. (data is striped across VDEVs)
Of course VDEVs should consist of at least pairs of drives at minimum for error resiliency, when adding more drives to the system.
Also one can also REPLACE smaller capacity drives, with a larger drives (by replacing ALL drives in the VDEV, you get free space increase in that VDEV), and do that on the fly
Also with newest OpenZFS development, one can also REMOVE some VDEVs form the system and add a new ones, and ZFS would reconfigure data.
Only someone stupid could rely to adding ONE drive at a time, to expand File server capacity and loose all the goodness of ZFS in the process, plus limiting writing speed..
That 20th drive over the rear exhaust though.
Glad to see you finally making intelligent decisions by using AMD for your server build.
As for gaming. Could I just put one of those things somewhere in my house, install my steam games on there and run the games on my actual gaming computer via a network cable (without installing them on the gaming computer of course)? Or is that not at all how this works.
~budget~
4:47 ~so that saves us some money~
Small correction: You mention that in Unraid the array drives have to be smàller than the parity drive; however, drives with the same capacity are fine, just don't put drives in the array witch a hígher capacity than the parity one.
Thanks for reminding me that HBA cards and "octopus" cables are still relatively cheap! Also you can go without a VGA card at all. Linux naturally supports ttys redirected to serial ports. You just have to reconfigure your installer's GRUB or use preseed instead. I guess every UEFI has PXE or BOOTP support nowadays. It's not for just the server market anymore.
$20,000 Build !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't do RaidZ1 with such large drives. If a drive dies the resilvering process could easily kill another drive due to the strain of resilvering – bye bye data
That's the problem with off the shelf NASes, they are really expensive for what you get.
they sure do need the recovery… crap seagate drives…
Are there not 3 drives being hit with little to no airflow?
I heard you like Hard Drives, so I bought you some Hard Drives, to go along with your Hard Drives, while you Hard Drive.
Fwiw you can run btrfs in RAID1 and keep adding drives after the fact – you'll have 1 drive worth of parity data the whole time but Unraid isn't the only expandable system.
Linus : Unraid is good
me : you son of a bitch am in
Linus:….. But it's not free
me: you son of a bitch am out
And it go back to the video that why somebody else choose jelly fish over DIY , yes the DIY has great spec bang for your buck but it need a lot of work to get it going(look at how many people need to complete it) VS an of the shelf ready to use with a support team ready to replace it in mission critical job with a pick of a phone which include in their high price.
4:16 СКОРОСТЬ!
Not something i will rush out and build after i have sold my car to pay for it.
I remember when 300gb drives were as thick as those 16tb drives.
If you are building a server, use server class hardware. If you were building a super car, you wouldn't start with a Yugo.
Is there gonna be detailed tutorial?
This would be nice for me, since I've been looking for nas like QNAP 8-bay which costs 1600e, I'd have 8x 8tb already purchased (which of 4x are in qnap 4-bay now).
I'm tech savvy but do not have almost any experience about nas setup or commandline stuff, also I have built only 1 pc so far. So all those parts I need as a list
Each cost like £400+
Now it became Linus NAS Tips or what?
This video would've had over 1M views if you'd simply put 100TB more in it.
linus: """budget"""
also linus: 20x 16tb drives
Linus u suck for going AMD