40 Comments on “[Video] Easy Small Form Factor Build? No.”
This is YJ from SpyLabs. I have seen many comments in the past few hours and would like to explain a few decisions we made and some clarifications regarding QC and support.
1. Janky Power Cable. I would like to clarify that we DO NOT ship modified power cables. LTT bought the case from a reseller and to our knowledge, the power cable was modified by them. We do not ship modified power cables or anything carrying lethal amounts of electricity.
There is also no stock issues regarding the power cable. Every case will come with a working, non-modified power cable.
There is also no need to modify the power cable to fit large air coolers, frankly, that is a bit ridiculous to expect anyone to do.
As such the case has various cutouts and tie-down points to run the power cable as a pigtail.
We note that the instruction manual is not clear about this and will improve on it for future batches.
2. QC issues. We take full responsibility for the various build quality issues, namely, the untapped screw hole, broken screw, rusty screws and glued GPU Mount.
In any case, rusty screws, untapped components, glued together parts are definitely not what we aspire for.
However, due to a small team with not a lot of experience selling similar products, some issues does make it past us.
We are learning from the process via customer feedback, and we thank LTT for making this video and bringing some of the issues to light.
We remain committed as always to provide full support to customers facing any QC issues and will ship out the affected components FOC worldwide.
3. Why is the case flat-packed?
Simply, to reduce shipping costs. It costs 3-4X as much to ship the case fully assembled. Next, the easiest way of doing a build in the JOAT is to assemble the case along with the PC components. Do check out a video on my channel where this process is filmed. We will improve this and make clearer instructions on the build process.
We welcome anyone who has any questions to email us and we will reply promptly.
SFF builds are certainly more difficult and require more planning than your typical mid-tower build, but I've always found the end result to be far more satisfying. Although, I've never had a case come with so many oddities 😅
What the point of a SFF case that ugly? I mean aesthetic is a big part of the appeal. NCASE M1 not that more expensive but million time more pleasing to the eye.
I would never spend the money on it. Also this statement from Spylabs is crap
"2. QC issues. We take full responsibility for the various build quality issues, namely, the untapped screw hole, broken screw, rusty screws and glued GPU Mount. In any case, rusty screws, untapped components, glued together parts are definitely not what we aspire for. However, due to a small team with not a lot of experience selling similar products, some issues does make it past us. We are learning from the process via customer feedback, and we thank LTT for making this video and bringing some of the issues to light. "
If they proper QC processes in place this would have never got out, and leaving it to customers is crap too. Hire a quality person to check this before they are packed.
I honestly don't understand why front panel headers aren't standardized so that the case connectors could be condensed into a single connector and be much easier to plug in.
It pains me to watch Linus build anything that’s requires DIY skills. Sure he can put together a normal PC but when it comes to thinking outside the box, the box’s usually wins. That said he’s getting better at it!
Cool that spylabs got on here and owned up to their mistakes. With that said, I can't see why one would ever buy this in lieu of other SFF cases. It just looks really cheap imo.
This is YJ from SpyLabs.
I have seen many comments in the past few hours and would like to explain a few decisions we made and some clarifications regarding QC and support.
1. Janky Power Cable.
I would like to clarify that we DO NOT ship modified power cables.
LTT bought the case from a reseller and to our knowledge, the power cable was modified by them.
We do not ship modified power cables or anything carrying lethal amounts of electricity.
There is also no stock issues regarding the power cable. Every case will come with a working, non-modified power cable.
There is also no need to modify the power cable to fit large air coolers, frankly, that is a bit ridiculous to expect anyone to do.
As such the case has various cutouts and tie-down points to run the power cable as a pigtail.
We note that the instruction manual is not clear about this and will improve on it for future batches.
2. QC issues.
We take full responsibility for the various build quality issues, namely, the untapped screw hole, broken screw, rusty screws and glued GPU Mount.
In any case, rusty screws, untapped components, glued together parts are definitely not what we aspire for.
However, due to a small team with not a lot of experience selling similar products, some issues does make it past us.
We are learning from the process via customer feedback, and we thank LTT for making this video and bringing some of the issues to light.
We remain committed as always to provide full support to customers facing any QC issues and will ship out the affected components FOC worldwide.
3. Why is the case flat-packed?
Simply, to reduce shipping costs. It costs 3-4X as much to ship the case fully assembled.
Next, the easiest way of doing a build in the JOAT is to assemble the case along with the PC components.
Do check out a video on my channel where this process is filmed.
We will improve this and make clearer instructions on the build process.
We welcome anyone who has any questions to email us and we will reply promptly.
Thanks for taking your time to read this.
-YJ
He always uses a goddamn rtx 3090 and it pisses me off because you cant find one for a decent price
Front panel connector to cables into USB? I thought all Asus mobos came with a handy extension to do that the right way 😉
12:34 Well, since electrical tape seems to be the theme of this built, you might as well just go for it…
SFF builds are certainly more difficult and require more planning than your typical mid-tower build, but I've always found the end result to be far more satisfying. Although, I've never had a case come with so many oddities 😅
I ♥️ Linus
What the point of a SFF case that ugly? I mean aesthetic is a big part of the appeal. NCASE M1 not that more expensive but million time more pleasing to the eye.
J.O.A.T
Jankiest
Of
All
Time
I would never spend the money on it. Also this statement from Spylabs is crap
"2. QC issues.
We take full responsibility for the various build quality issues, namely, the untapped screw hole, broken screw, rusty screws and glued GPU Mount.
In any case, rusty screws, untapped components, glued together parts are definitely not what we aspire for.
However, due to a small team with not a lot of experience selling similar products, some issues does make it past us.
We are learning from the process via customer feedback, and we thank LTT for making this video and bringing some of the issues to light. "
If they proper QC processes in place this would have never got out, and leaving it to customers is crap too. Hire a quality person to check this before they are packed.
you can run that 5600x below 55°c sometimes at 45°c in gaming if you undervolt -30 and still boost up to 4.65ghz with a noctua 14
Damn that's expensive for such simple punched out steel case. Manufacturing costs virtually nothing for thing like that.
just leave my pc for 1 min. coming back: oh hey linus
haha build the box right then it works read the manual haha
I honestly don't understand why front panel headers aren't standardized so that the case connectors could be condensed into a single connector and be much easier to plug in.
Joat = janckist of all time
terry davis had a great quote about small form factor PCs but i forgot what it was
It's funny watching Linus start to get pissed off mid video
"Shit-I-think-we-just-scratched-it"
It pains me to watch Linus build anything that’s requires DIY skills. Sure he can put together a normal PC but when it comes to thinking outside the box, the box’s usually wins. That said he’s getting better at it!
'any screw is a selftapper if you press hard enough' story of my life 😂😂😂
linus: price of this pc is $1,700
amazon:Rtx 3060 for $2000
me:i am in the wrong dimension
running my 3600x with 550x because of money crisis 😌
Did you…. Did you just CGI compressed air firing out of Linus’s fingers??? Respect.
Opens a founders edition rtx 3060ti.
Me crying here trying to get it since 2 years……
Y is the cpu cooler bigger than the motherboard
Hitting that Canadian content quota with the Red Green quote
Linus wouldn't boot from anything less than PCIe 4.0, NO SIREE… dat thing is still more than twice as fast as SATA SSD. LOL
man i wish i had a 3070 been waiting for a year and it still costs 1200$
Gotta love the Red Green reference! Keep your stick on the ice!
JOAT..Just Okay of All Time
Nothing is easy in life
Linus that's not how you self tap a screw
sand it to a triangle shape on the tip & it'll tap itself into the hole
Didn't realize how much i need this in my life till you showed it
Cool that spylabs got on here and owned up to their mistakes. With that said, I can't see why one would ever buy this in lieu of other SFF cases. It just looks really cheap imo.
Jankyist
Of
All
Time
It give like industry vibe to it right
Like if you agree
You must build a pc in a match box in next video
10:57 Toothpaste ofcourse.
$200 for bunch of holes????
Can you build a good low cost Graphic designer setup? And a cheap home server with lots of sata slots for storage? Maybe from an old used PC
Case magically turns from BTX to ATX..